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	<title>Comments on: Reddit karma junky? link to Reddit praise, Dilbert, Paul Graham, Lisp&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Ben Atkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Atkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested in seeing how high different paul graham, etc. articles rank. And there is still plenty of room for other articles. Like your site, for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested in seeing how high different paul graham, etc. articles rank. And there is still plenty of room for other articles. Like your site, for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: twoday.tuwien.ac.at/IMHO</title>
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		<dc:creator>twoday.tuwien.ac.at/IMHO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;reddit.com...&lt;/strong&gt;

Reddit.com is a cool new (well, new to me) Web application which allows you to rate user submitted articles up or down (Karma Voting). The really cool thing is, that you train a filter with these votes and the system is able to present new articles whi...</description>
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<p>Reddit.com is a cool new (well, new to me) Web application which allows you to rate user submitted articles up or down (Karma Voting). The really cool thing is, that you train a filter with these votes and the system is able to present new articles whi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nenad Spirkoski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nenad Spirkoski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actualy can&#039;t understand your standpoint. How and why are Paul Graham or &quot;about reddit&quot; promoted stories a problem for you? Just click next and you&#039;ll get more links :)

I see &quot;problem&quot; in fact that most of the time, users rate links up without first reading  them, and i believe, they very rarely go back and rate them down if it wasn&#039;t any good.

That&#039;s why i&#039;m giving reddit a try alhought digg is almost all i need(/ed). Can&#039;t understand why won&#039;t they just make frickin&#039; undugg button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actualy can&#8217;t understand your standpoint. How and why are Paul Graham or &#8220;about reddit&#8221; promoted stories a problem for you? Just click next and you&#8217;ll get more links :)</p>
<p>I see &#8220;problem&#8221; in fact that most of the time, users rate links up without first reading  them, and i believe, they very rarely go back and rate them down if it wasn&#8217;t any good.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why i&#8217;m giving reddit a try alhought digg is almost all i need(/ed). Can&#8217;t understand why won&#8217;t they just make frickin&#8217; undugg button.</p>
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		<title>By: arakyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>arakyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 04:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you like the site now it&#039;s probably because your idea of &#039;interesting&#039; is similar to the small group of web programming, Paul Graham reading, early adapter, technology obsessed nerds that are submitting everything right now. If you took a real cross section of the public at large and made them use reddit, do you really think it would be as easy or fun to find interesting stuff on the &#039;new&#039; page, or do it enough to build a profile from scratch so &#039;recommended&#039; would work (assuming the algorithm does something useful)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you like the site now it&#8217;s probably because your idea of &#8216;interesting&#8217; is similar to the small group of web programming, Paul Graham reading, early adapter, technology obsessed nerds that are submitting everything right now. If you took a real cross section of the public at large and made them use reddit, do you really think it would be as easy or fun to find interesting stuff on the &#8216;new&#8217; page, or do it enough to build a profile from scratch so &#8216;recommended&#8217; would work (assuming the algorithm does something useful)?</p>
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		<title>By: hoju</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with reddit is that a lot of users seem to think that it is a technology site, in the vein of slashdot and digg, which it is not. It annoys me to no end that mind numbing blather about lisp gets promoted to the top while genuinely insightful and interesting links langish. I suppose that simply reflects the readership: the majority of reddit users are a bunch of nerds.    

The blame for every single Paul Graham and Dilbert link geting promoted through the roof lies directly at the feet of the reddit users. The majority of people must LIKE seeing a link to Paul Graham or an article about lisp every day on reddit, or they wouldn&#039;t promote it. 

Its a cycle that will only drive reddit down into obscurity.  If only tech articles appear on reddit, then only tech-heads will visit the site, and they will only post and promote more tech articles. Everything else will slowly be driven out and you will be left with an inferior digg or slashdot clone. Just look at the all time top articles and see how many are programming or tech related.  Are these really the most interesting things going on in the world today?

I think reddit should start slapping down a few of the tech articles.  I wouldn&#039;t call it moderation... just tweaking.  There might be a minor backlash among the tech-heads, but who cares? Let them cry and run back to slashdot and digg.  Maintaining a BROAD appeal is what will allow reddit to grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with reddit is that a lot of users seem to think that it is a technology site, in the vein of slashdot and digg, which it is not. It annoys me to no end that mind numbing blather about lisp gets promoted to the top while genuinely insightful and interesting links langish. I suppose that simply reflects the readership: the majority of reddit users are a bunch of nerds.    </p>
<p>The blame for every single Paul Graham and Dilbert link geting promoted through the roof lies directly at the feet of the reddit users. The majority of people must LIKE seeing a link to Paul Graham or an article about lisp every day on reddit, or they wouldn&#8217;t promote it. </p>
<p>Its a cycle that will only drive reddit down into obscurity.  If only tech articles appear on reddit, then only tech-heads will visit the site, and they will only post and promote more tech articles. Everything else will slowly be driven out and you will be left with an inferior digg or slashdot clone. Just look at the all time top articles and see how many are programming or tech related.  Are these really the most interesting things going on in the world today?</p>
<p>I think reddit should start slapping down a few of the tech articles.  I wouldn&#8217;t call it moderation&#8230; just tweaking.  There might be a minor backlash among the tech-heads, but who cares? Let them cry and run back to slashdot and digg.  Maintaining a BROAD appeal is what will allow reddit to grow.</p>
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		<title>By: unohoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>unohoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true...some of the points highlighted in here....And I agree..If Reddit wants to make it prime time, it better reduce the vanity..Any news / blog article describing reddit / paul graham need to be cut down upon...Spread your wings guys, expand your domain beyond the self-indulgence of all news about reddit and paul..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true&#8230;some of the points highlighted in here&#8230;.And I agree..If Reddit wants to make it prime time, it better reduce the vanity..Any news / blog article describing reddit / paul graham need to be cut down upon&#8230;Spread your wings guys, expand your domain beyond the self-indulgence of all news about reddit and paul..</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ewan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if you login to reddit and moderate, it will eventually personalize your selection so posts from people you continually rate down will be shuffled down and posts from people you usually enjoy will be rated up.

I like lisp news so that news will stay relevant for me. 
You rate it down, so it will be shuffled down for you.

I think that&#039;s why there&#039;s a login system. I hope that&#039;s why. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you login to reddit and moderate, it will eventually personalize your selection so posts from people you continually rate down will be shuffled down and posts from people you usually enjoy will be rated up.</p>
<p>I like lisp news so that news will stay relevant for me.<br />
You rate it down, so it will be shuffled down for you.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s why there&#8217;s a login system. I hope that&#8217;s why. :P</p>
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		<title>By: rossit</title>
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		<dc:creator>rossit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say yes, I would like these blog posts to be always be linked, and let the people decide how popular they are.  that is the purpose of reddit isn&#039;t it?

Its like any forum you go to, and ask a question.  Then comes the inevitable &quot;don&#039;t ask, search first&quot;.

Well the problem with that is a forum no longer becomes a forum, it becomes an f.a.q. site with rarely any discussion.  I&#039;ve seen it happen to a few sites where a few zealous moderators were quite successful in their attempts to their demise.

Reddit is fine the way it is, unless stuff is making its way onto there that shouldn&#039;t be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say yes, I would like these blog posts to be always be linked, and let the people decide how popular they are.  that is the purpose of reddit isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Its like any forum you go to, and ask a question.  Then comes the inevitable &#8220;don&#8217;t ask, search first&#8221;.</p>
<p>Well the problem with that is a forum no longer becomes a forum, it becomes an f.a.q. site with rarely any discussion.  I&#8217;ve seen it happen to a few sites where a few zealous moderators were quite successful in their attempts to their demise.</p>
<p>Reddit is fine the way it is, unless stuff is making its way onto there that shouldn&#8217;t be</p>
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		<title>By: J Aaron Farr</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Aaron Farr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reddit really caters to all the geeks who went to Paul Graham&#039;s startup school in October.  That&#039;s why you see all those Lisp and startup articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reddit really caters to all the geeks who went to Paul Graham&#8217;s startup school in October.  That&#8217;s why you see all those Lisp and startup articles.</p>
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		<title>By: Saar Drimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saar Drimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Dominus,
Good points. More eyes are looking at the &quot;new&quot; page &lt;em&gt;may&lt;/em&gt; balance the avalanche of new posts. However, I do see good items (IMO) going down the pipe so fast, they don&#039;t get the attention they deserve... but maybe they didn&#039;t deserve any to begin with. You know, one user can post 15 new items within 10 seconds and get the rest not seen. Maybe Reddit should restrict the amount of links a user can submit per hour?

Pre,
Try the &lt;a href=&quot;http://reader.google.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google reader&lt;/a&gt;, I&#039;m giving it a go now, it doing OK so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Dominus,<br />
Good points. More eyes are looking at the &#8220;new&#8221; page <em>may</em> balance the avalanche of new posts. However, I do see good items (IMO) going down the pipe so fast, they don&#8217;t get the attention they deserve&#8230; but maybe they didn&#8217;t deserve any to begin with. You know, one user can post 15 new items within 10 seconds and get the rest not seen. Maybe Reddit should restrict the amount of links a user can submit per hour?</p>
<p>Pre,<br />
Try the <a href="http://reader.google.com" rel="nofollow">Google reader</a>, I&#8217;m giving it a go now, it doing OK so far.</p>
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